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Rape? In UK, they blame it on women

A third of people in the UK believe a woman is partially or completely to blame for being raped if she has behaved in a flirtatious manner, according to ‘shocking’ research.
   More than a quarter also believe a woman is at least partly responsible for being raped if she wears sexy or revealing clothing, or is drunk, the ICM study found.
   One in five thinks a woman is partly to blame if it is known she has many sexual partners, while more than a third believe she is responsible to some degree if she has clearly failed to say ‘no’ to the man.
   In each of these scenarios a slightly greater proportion of men than women held these views — except when it came to being drunk, when it was equal. In fact, more women (5%) than men (3%) thought a woman was ‘totally responsible’ for being raped if she was intoxicated.
   Support groups described the findings as ‘alarming’ and ‘appalling’.
   The national charity Victim Support urged criminal justice professionals and healthcare workers to “consider how best to educate Bijit Kundu people about the terrible impact of rape, with a view to changing these attitudes.” The opinion poll, commissioned by Amnesty International, also revealed that the vast majority of the British population has no idea how many women are raped every year in the UK.
Almost all, 96%, of respondents said they either did not know the true extent of rape or thought it was far lower than the true figure. Only 4% even thought the number of women raped exceeded 10,000. The number of recorded rapes in 2004-05 was more than 12,000 and the 2001 British Crime S u r ve y estimated that just 15% of rapes come to the attention of the police.
Amnesty International UK director Kate Allen said the poll, part of its Stop Violence Against Women campaign, had uncovered ‘disturbing attitudes’.
She said: “It is shocking that so many people will lay the blame for being raped at the feet of women themselves and the government must launch a new drive to counteract this sexist ‘blame culture’.”

 

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Update Tuesday, November 22, 2005

 

They are Right
At last someone found out the truth.

for RAPE, women and women only resposible.
who run with half naked,Even they have money to buy cloths, not men, its WOMEN, so they are provoking men to rape someone else.

women are more flirtrous than men, they try to get some favors by this way,and get raped,or they blame so, when they leave without pay for the service.

and more than half of the cases are false,coz women want to harass men to get money, or blackmail men to get favours.

Crusader
http://mynation.net
By Anonymous Date Tuesday, November 22, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
Dear Crusader,

I do understand your bitterness towards women, but the lack of covering clothes is not responsible for rape only. Even when dressed in a saree or in a (fully covering) suit, it can still happen. How come even old ladies are raped? It is not only the young, drunk and thoughtless. As a women you can get harrassed even if you are dressed and unflirting. Just merely the fact that you are a women can be enough. And as we have recently learned, even a man can be raped. Is this his fault also? How about minors or even kids? Is it their fault also? Should not a man be able to control his desires or is it his right to just grab any women just because he feels lust? When a man rapes a woman and is married, this is not only rape but also adultery. Where do you draw the line of right and wrong?

The shocked Indian woman
By Anonymous Date Tuesday, November 22, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
you are right Shocked indian women.

Why they rape.?

because some of you provoke,wearing half naked dress. in movies who strip "WOMEN" why...? they want money, so its easy way to make money too.

tell your those sisters behave properly, dress well. they are your own kind.

i seen women wear sarees, half foot below belly button WHY?
an tell them hide their swellings on chest properly, those are not disply objects.

Crusader
http://mynation.net
By Anonymous Date Tuesday, November 22, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
Dear Crusader,

I can't stop other women from being undressed and it are the men who want to see naked women in movies. If there was no market for pornography they would stop producing it. It is a huge and flourishing industry and men are the customers. You can hardly blame only one side. Don't get me wrong, I fully agree to what you say but it is wrong to blame only women. This blog is written by a nightmarish woman but not all women are this way. Please do keep this in mind. Your mother and sister, they are not bad either and so there are many more.

The shocked Indian woman


By Anonymous Date Tuesday, November 22, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
Am I to be blamed for other womens misbehavior? Are you being fair, Crusader? In this town a 73 year old woman was raped, it it her fault?
I am not their sister and why should I suffer just because they weren't taught by their parents how to behave? You are going to the same level as Sunita saying that because women were mistreated in the past all men should suffer. Whatever extreme, I feel, is not very healthy!
By Anonymous Date Tuesday, November 22, 2005 Link

To Shocked Indian Woman
Either you present your facts on how women are being tortured or you blame it on men. You shall not be allowed to do both at any circumstances. Understood ? Because if I start presenting facts on how men are being tortured, you will have to run for cover. So, be moderate and freely present your facts without blaming it on men. I am sure you don't want me to judge you.
By Anonymous Date Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Link

To shocked Women
Men harassed indian women for ages, thats why you women take revenge on men now, with the help of biased laws and misusing loop holes of laws to harass men?

its very clear, from statistics, saying only 4 out of 100 498a cases are convicted WHY?

that means 96 cases are false. and some are running for more than 5 years. some girl opt suicide in fear of charging them for thier 498A. some never come to court. and most opt for out court compromise

WHY?

you have any answer.

Crusader.
By Anonymous Date Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
Dear Crusader,

I am not blaming it on men! All I am saying is that you cannot say all men are bad or all women are bad. There are bad people out there in both genders and you cannot generalise in this way.

shocked Indian woman
By Anonymous Date Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Link

See there are some women of this type also.
I am working in Mumbai and I was staying with my wife at Virar (Dist-Thane), Maharasthtra sine Oct 2004.

In my marriage (Jan-2004) there was no demand for dowry or something else, After marriage I had taken one duly signed affidavit from My Wife and One duly signed affidavit from my Parent-In-Laws to the effect (May-2004) that Neither me nor any body from my family has demanded for any dowry. And what ever the gifts worth (Rs60,000/-) was given to their daughter was at their own wish & will and the list of gift was also duly signed by my Parent-In-Laws.

Now my Parent-In-laws want me to make me separate from my family as I am the highest earning member in my family(May-2005). I denied. My wife is also not mature enough to take a decision of life, I feel pity on her. On seduction from her mother she get aborted her 3 months baby without my consent or my knowledge(June-2005). When I tried to contact my wife they refused to talk to me and they said they will not allow their daughter to live further with me.
Then When I asked Rohtak(Haryana) Police to help me out to talk to my wife(29-June-2005). After 10 days (08-July-2005) of that they had filed a false case of dowry harassment on me and my family at Rohtak(Hatyana).

Still Charge sheet to be prepared (Dec-05).

See there are some women of this type also.

I have heard and seen that wife want to leave her husband due to following reasons
1) He is not able to satisfy her sexualy.
2) He is a active drunker and behaves badly after drinking.
3) He used to abuse his wife.
4) He has some extra maritial affiars.
5) He is very lazy and poor.
6) He used to smoke or something sort of addiction.
7) Not taking care of her properly.
8) OR something that which a society not allows.

BUT here nothing was the reason, just EGO and SELFISHNESS is the problem, My Mother-In-Law wants me to get me separate from MY DAD, My mom (She is no more), and from my brothers. How I can leave and forget that HOW MY DAD being only earning hand of my family has brought me up to this level that today I had achieved a good status in society.

Here main problem is EGO that my mother-in-law is a principal where as my mom was a just simple house wife & my Father-In-Law is a Section Officer in Ministry of HRD where as my Dad is just a Upper Division Clerk.

So My parent-In-Law want to keep relation with me only not with my parents, even they want that I should also have no relations with my parents and family.

But the most I feel pity on my wife who dont know what she has lost just due to wrong teachings of her mother. I love my wife very much. She also love me very much but today she has not that power of understaning and feel of guiltiness that she can make side her mothers' EGO.

Really If there is GOD, May God teach them the right lesson that what is the importance of a child for them.

Rakesh Sharma

By Anonymous Date Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Link

To Shocked Indian Women
Fine, I accept that not all men and women are alike. Now answer this question. Why the law unconditionally believe that the husband accused by his wife has no right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty ? Just one single false complaint by wife will land her husband and in-laws directly into jail without investigation. If, IF the law doesn't consider all men as culprit then the husband shall be given the right to be presume innocent until proven guilty. You have no idea how it feels to be convicted even if you haven't done anything. You have no idea how it feels when your wife threatens for legal action if you do not kick your parents out of the house. You have no idea how it feels when you are made to pay hard-earned money to the person who has ruined your life. The feministic media flashes the news all over the place saying that the husband and in-laws have tortured a woman for dowry even before the court gives any judgement . Who the hell has proved that a man is immune to such injustice and cruelty ? You must thank god that we men especially myself have not lost my temper over this issue, we are trying to smoothly approach the problem instead of getting really nasty. I must say, you have only seen a man who is slave of his own emotions, you haven't seen a man who becomes a slave of his own anger. Still we are maintaining our composure and dealing with this problem calmly. If you are not like Sunita, good for you......but if you want to say that not all men are alike then you should criticize the law, which I know you won't. I can go on and on and on over this subject.

Anyways, people call me "Rebel".
By Anonymous Date Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
Dear Rebel,

my heart is crying out to you and I too know that laws are not always right. In the past weeks I came across a lot of cases like yours and it is injustice. Those women should be put to jail for a long long time!
No, I don't know what it feels like to be put injustly to jail and I cannot evenon fathom the feeling of betrayal you all are facing. But I do know very well how it feels to be on the receiving end (in the negative) in a marriage. To be hated, beaten, locked up, abused in any possible way. I have gone through the most horrid marriage one could imagine so I think I can relate to how you must feel. But I don't accuse all men for what this one man did to me and my family. I left the country and am living alone, working for my living and have to be scared of retribution just because this man comes from a powerful family. I never got a single penny, not even for our child. He is not even interested in the child. I know how unfair law can be when you are helpless. I know exactly what it feels like. Those laws worked negatively for you and they also failed me. After all who would believe that Mr. Perfect nearly killed his wife?

shocked Indian woman
By Anonymous Date Thursday, November 24, 2005 Link

To Shocked Indian Women
Please accept my kind sympathy to you. It was not suppose to happen whatever happened in your life. I am sorry for that.
Unlike women, men feel sorry when a man gives pain to a woman. The last thing that was required to ruin our country was a battle between genders. That has ignited, thanks to women's organisation. Anyways, I like to appreciate your honesty and support. Thank you.

Rebel
By Anonymous Date Thursday, November 24, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
Dear Rebel,

you also have my heartfelt sympathy and I really cannot understand those womens motives. Money for sure does not make her happy for long but a true partnership based in love and trust with her husband does bring happiness. As I said before, one can never generalize. Those laws are wrong, power given to people weak at heart will always be abused. I too am very sorry for all the victims of such women. It is just too bad that rakshashas will never marry the surpanakhas and leave the rest of us live in peace. This world is far from perfect but I believe we are survivors and we should work together for real justice and the healing of our hearts. Then it is no more a war of gender but of good and evil. And I firmly believe, the good will always prevail, even though the evil might last a loooooong time.

shocked Indian woman
In the end we are human beings, no matter if male or female: we both feel pain, shame, fear, both of us want to love and be loved.
By Anonymous Date Thursday, November 24, 2005 Link

To Shocked Indian woman
I agree with you Lady.

Rebel
By Anonymous Date Friday, November 25, 2005 Link

Untitled Comment
Yes Rakesh you are right;

There are many immature women,who do as her mother says, or they do not have any other option than listening to them and ruin her marriage.

most modrem women try to control her husband, as per her mothers guidence,without thinking who is the ultimate looser. of she ever think that she is going to ruin her marriage no women will do anything to her husband, charge him falsely. she thinks if she charge him falsly he will come come her begging and do as she says.but her trick bounce back and she will get divorce nothing else.

this is most unfortunate situation.if today any marriage breaks, we have to blame wifes mother frist.

Shocked indian man.
By Anonymous Date Saturday, November 26, 2005 Link
 
 

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