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• Sunday, March 18, 2007 - Index : Sexual harressment at workplace, wrong LAW proposal

Draft of proposed Law " Sexual harressment at workplace "2005

 

I thought pesons like me and 99.9 % men will say punish sexual harressment, so why I am reading this new law proposal. But as you know bad feminists, most of law proposed turned out to be, with hidden motives, unacceptable and wrong.

 

Links for 2006 version comments are :

 

Wrong constitution of committee

 

The law says pay money to the women complaining of sexual harressment at worplace. Then goes all ways to ensure that innocents are traped by false cases for money and revenge.

 

1000' s of powerful contract jobs reserved for womens rights activists. If you tell the truth, you lose this job. All statistics collection and cases come to you only. Good way to give distorted picture to press, if you give correct picture, your job is gone. Is this good for truth and society.

 

Wrong defination of sexual harressment

 

Other etc. Wrongs

 

WCD trying to avoide discussions on the law proposal made by them. Why not make comments received by them about this law public in a blog. Just like the Ministry of external affairs does. Making a blog is 5 minutes job. Let public discuss about the law instead of trying hard by WCD to avoid discussions. For 2007 changed version, the kast date for comments was 31st March by WCD, thus giving a month or so only to public to understand the LAW proposal and generate awareness to oppose the LAW by public.

 

Late addition : 2007 version draft proposal

2007 version comments.

 

SC judgement in Vishaka v/s State of Rajasthan :

http://ipc498a.wordpress.com/2007/03/20/the-sexual-harassment-bill/

http://ipc498a.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/visakha-sh.pdf

See how SC guidelines have been thrown to garbage by bad feminists law makers.

 

Other Links for opposing Sexual harressment Law Proposal.

 

Printed Pamphelet 1st try for distribution

 

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• Sunday, March 18, 2007 - Save humans from WCD

Posted by Anonymous
Let everyone fight to save humans from "Ministry of Women and Child development (MWCD) " new laws.

Every word is crafted to hide the real intent of the law.

Edited by genderjustise on Monday, March 26, 2007 at 11:37 AM
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• Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - LAWs should be approved by Supreme Court.

Posted by Anonymous
Posted by: "Vernal Greens" vernalGreens@gmail.com

All criminal bills should be approved by the Supreme Court. If Supreme Court
is not satisfied with the bills, they should not become acts/laws.

MPs by themselves are unable to judge whether the laws they have made
are reasonable or not. And laws should be based upon justice, not by vote
politics.
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• Sunday, March 25, 2007 - Suggested changes

Posted by Anonymous
First, NCW, other women organizations, press and media should not be allowed to use the amount of settlement awarded to the aggrieved person as a criteria for judging the success of the law.

Second, the word "women" in the bill should be replaced with "person". Men who don't want to yield to the coercion of their female bosses to have sex with them should not become a victim of the law. Please allow the men of principles and morality to be loyal to their wives and spare them from facing false allegations. If law made a loyal man have unwanted sex with his unscrupulous female boss and the wife came to know about it, the family of the man will break. Even if the allegations are later turned out to be false, the pain a man will suffer socially will be immense and irreparable. We should be human and have laws to save and promote humanity (not just women).
Third, if this bill becomes an act, employers will be averse to spend money on setting up a committee and publishing an annual report. So what they will do instead is not recruit women and escape punishment of not setting up a committee. Clearly, the job opportunities to women in all sectors, including Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) and IT, will go down. Chances of women to succeed in their professional environment will definitely go down. In other words, this is a bill that will harm those women genuinely interested in their professional development, but help those who loathe work and look for easy money.

Fourth, if this bill must be submitted, the punishment for reporting false cases should be more severe than the punishment that would be inflicted on the accused if the case were true.

Fifth, the bill must have provisions to ensure that neither the accused nor the petitioner suffer any punishments (directly or indirectly) until the judgement is made.

Sixth, the conviction should be allowed to be challenged in courts of law and the employer should be punished with costs if because of the employer's judgement, any of the party suffered unjustified damages.

Seventh, if for the purpose of investigation it is required that the identity and/or address of the aggrieved person, respondent or witness be revealed to a certain group, it should be revealed to the group for the purpose of fair and just investigation.
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• Sunday, March 25, 2007 - Why is this law needed...

Posted by Anonymous
I have worked in 2 big companies and I never saw any women being harassed, women get more support and they leave by sharp 6PM. Infact women tempt male colleague with their brief dress showing their boobs as olympic medals. There is no need of any such law.
As proposed in this bill, the jury should consist of atleast 50% of women. By this it is very clear that women want upper hand and has nothing to do with the innocence of man. This proposal is a criminal proposal and the people who are proposing should be kept behind the bars or be hanged.
Unfortunately the politicians are the real bastards. They can go down to any extent for votes. And also all the males who support feminists to please women are abstards. By doing this they are bringing injustice and inequality .

50% women in the jury... why??->

If women cannot believe in a justice delivered by a man, how can a man believe in a
judgement passed by a woman against a man with all these tweaked laws supporting
woman. Infact it is seen in many studies women are emotional, so a woman judge is
bound to be partial against a man in most of the cases.


Injustice is bound to happen to a man in this arrangement. Infact as the law is totally biased as it can take cirumstantial evidence and word of women, atleast to get some justice to a man 100% of the jury should be men and from mens rights group.

If you say 50% women - you are just bringing biased opinion in to the justice system. How can this happen. This is wrong cant you see the truth.

Why is gender of the jury specified here?? - just to be harsher against a man. Then where is the justice. It is not justice.
Feminist groups are trying to create a system where what they say against men is true, and politicians are supporting this because they dont loose anything, atleast immediately.
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• Sunday, March 25, 2007 - Why this gender bias?

Posted by Anonymous
On one hand we say everybody is equal and on the other hand we say special conditions for women. This is ridiculous. First decide what is "RIGHT". What made someone come up with the idea that "sexual harrasment can be for "only" women?" Why come up with such "narrow-minded" idea? Where goes the "equality" concept? This is shows some "male-hatred" intentions behind. If laws are to be made make it "gender-neutral". If you can't, then make a different world for only "women" and forget about living in a society of having both men and women. I strongly condem the idea of having "gender-biased" wording in a law intended to protect the sanctity of a work place.
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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - AIDWA, NCW are Legal Terrorist Organisations

Posted by Anonymous
AIDWA, NCW are Legal Terrorist Organisations run on the TAX Payers money with full support of MPs(70% criminal back-grounds). This new proposed law is in the same line of IPC 498A(Dowry Law) for putting innocent Men on ransom by crooked Girls.

SHAME on Indian Democracy.

This Farce will come out soon as these groups want equality and want equal number of GUNDA Women and Criminal women in Parliament.

Even GOD can not Save India. Its we people who need to rise and break Parliament doors while questioning these morons.
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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - distort truth to become the judge in the committe

Posted by genderjustise
"*****************
2) The Committee shall consist of the following members namely:-
(a) a Chairperson, from amongst employees, who shall be a senior level woman, committed to the cause of women. In case a senior level woman employee is not available, the Chairperson shall be appointed from a sister organization or a non-governmental organization;
(b) not less than two members from amongst employees committed to the cause of women or who have had experience in social work; and
(c) one member from amongst such non-governmental organisations or associations or other interests committed to the cause of women, as may be specified:
Provided that atleast fifty per cent of the members so nominated shall be women.
"**************************************
Committees will be made mainly from so called women "committed to the cause of women" . To fit in this defination you have to write one sided articles, views etc. if you dare to tell the truth about both a man and a women, you no longer are someone "committed to the cause of women" so no longer a judge. So what kind of judgements we will get from these committees is easy to guess for everyone.

Why normal women can not be made members and chairperson of these committees. Can they not understand the feelings of men and women. Are these normal men and women not intelligent enough to decide if a behaviour is correct or not, and to decide the truth from false. Why is it compulsory for the chairperson women to be "committed to the cause of women", then only she can become the chairperson. Most of these so called women "committed to the cause of women" are from failed relationships, are so can not be said to be best in behaviour or relations matters. They can be made part of committee, but to reserve the post of chairperson to these women by LAW is insult to other women, our mothers in successful relationships with men. Is it that only women committed to the cause of women can understand the feelings of women and men. Are other normal men and women not inteligent enough to decide if a behaviour is correct or not.
"committed to the cause of women" for chairperson and others must be removed.

This law is a ploy to instigate the women workers to become "committed to the so called cause of women" to get admission in this powerful committee, due to posts reserved for them. If you tell the truth and not one sided distorted views, you no longer fit enough to be a judge in these powerful committees. More false distorted articles you can write the better "committed to the so called cause of women" you become and get better posts and money from WCD and NCW etc. loads of Govt. money. Why truthful women like our mothers in successful relationships can not get this money, why only distorted picture presenters get this money.

The aim is to get wrong judgements as the committee members are selected based on if they distort and give one sided views only or not.
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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - Thanks for comments. Small compilations

Posted by genderjustise
Good job, thanks for valuable comments. Some comilations.

"Simple rule in the name of Women Sexual Harassment Act, those lazy, non performer will use the Women Sexual act to earn the money as a free meal.
...Why I do not want a female -sales coordinator in our team? But I am not so courageous to take a false blame of sexual harassment and then loose the Job,
******************************************

"All criminal bills should be approved by the Supreme Court. If Supreme Court
is not satisfied with the bills, they should not become acts/laws.
"******************************************
"First, NCW, other women organizations, press and media should not be allowed to use the amount of settlement awarded to the aggrieved person as a criteria for judging the success of the law.

Second, the word "women" in the bill should be replaced with "person".
... employers will be averse to spend money on setting up a committee and publishing an annual report.
... Fourth, if this bill must be submitted, the punishment for reporting false cases should be more severe than the punishment that would be inflicted on the accused if the case were true.
"******************************************
have worked in 2 big companies and I never saw any women being harassed, women get more support and they leave by sharp 6PM. Infact women tempt male colleague with their brief dress showing their boobs as olympic medals. There is no need of any such law.
As proposed in this bill, the jury should consist of atleast 50% of women. By this it is very clear that women want upper hand and has nothing to do with the innocence of man.
...also all the males who support feminists to please women are abstards. By doing this they are bringing injustice and inequality .
...50% women in the jury... why??->
If women cannot believe in a justice delivered by a man, how can a man believe in a
judgement passed by a woman against a man with all these tweaked laws supporting
woman.
...Why is gender of the jury specified here?? - just to be harsher against a man. Then where is the justice. It is not justice.
Feminist groups are trying to create a system where what they say against men is true
"******************************************
"Why come up with such "narrow-minded" idea? Where goes the "equality" concept? This is shows some "male-hatred" intentions behind
...condem the idea of having "gender-biased" wording in a law intended to protect the sanctity of a work place.
"******************************************

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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - Sent to WCD

Posted by Anonymous
The Ministry of Women and Child Development
Government of India

Sir / Madam

I am glad to know that your Ministry has drafted a bill on the said
subject. Sexual Harassment (SH) at the workplace is a serious
violation of human rights and undermines the dignity of the person
who is a victim of SH. After going through the draft of the Bill, I'd
like to submit the following observations for your consideration.

1. It is becoming increasingly clear that not only women, but even
men can fall victims to SH, and SH can never be condoned, regardless
of the gender of the victim, or that of the abuser. Therefore, a law
on SH needs to be written in totally gender neutral language. SH laws
in other countries are written in gender neutral language. I also
bring to your attention the fact that the Law Commission of India,
in its 172nd report (submitted in March 2000) recommended rewriting
of India's rape law (Sections 375 to 376D of the Indian Penal Code)
in gender neutral language, to afford protection to ALL victims. I
attach a link to the said report for your ready reference

http://www.lawcommi ssionofindia. nic.in/rapelaws. htm

Therefore, I submit that the definition of `aggrieved woman' must be
gender neutral. Even men can be subjected to SH at the workplace
(from other men or women). In the US, almost 16% of all SH complaints
received by the Equal Employment Opportunities Commission (EEOC) are
regarding SH of men.
http://www.eeoc.gov/types/ sexual_harassment.html

2. The provisions related to the constitution of the Enquiry
Committee or local committee state that the chairperson, and the
members should be `commited to the cause of women'. If we agree that
this law must be gender neutral, and male victims are also given
protection of this law, this provision may become inconsistent. The
job of the committee is to conduct a fair, impartial enquiry, and
arrive at the truth, without any preconceived notion regarding either
the guilt, or the innocence of the respondent. But a person
`committed to the cause of women' may well start with a biased mind.

3. I welcome the provision wherein action can be taken against the
complainant in case of false, or malicious accusations. This will
help check frivoulous complaints, and allow the employer to focus on
genuine complaints.
My submission is just as there are provisions for paying compensation
to the victim if the complaint is genuine, there should be a
provision for paying compensation to the respondent if the complaint
is found to be false, or malicious. After all, victims of false
complaints of SH also suffer and they should be compensated as well.

4. The enquiry procedure has not been given in the Bill, but the
Appropriate Govt has been given powers to frame rules for the same. I
feel it's necessary to specify the procedure in the Act itself,
rather than leaving it to delegated legislation, since setting out a
procedure which is fair and impartial is necessary for this Act to be
effective.

I am hopeful that you will give my submission due consideration.

Regards.
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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - sexual harressment case filed by men go up

Posted by genderjustise
Defying assumptions about sexual harassment in the workplace, a record
number of men reported being harassed by male colleagues last year,
according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Cases filed by men made up 15.4 percent of the 12,025 sexual harassment
charges in fiscal year 2006, compared to about 11 percent a decade ago,
according to the EEOC.
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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - Unbiased and Fare Investigation.

Posted by Anonymous
I would like to draw your attention towards the
pathetic condition of the laws, which are formed or
being formed for the benevolance of women, are being
expoited by crooked people at large.

I would like to suggest further, that for betterment
of women in society following steps can be considered.

1. Gender Neutral Low.
2. Rightly implementation of Laws.
3. Unbiased and Fare Investigation.
4. Strong Action against law abusers.
5. Strong sentences if found Guilty (eigther groom or
bride side).

Only then hamonious condtion can be assured in men and
women in society.

One sided laws would rather create grudges and sour
feeling among the other.

Hope I have expressed my self well.


Edited by genderjustise on Monday, March 26, 2007 at 11:17 AM
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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - harressment for Men as well.

Posted by Anonymous
The law maker's should also incorporate the Clause of harressment for Men as well. A recent incedent was highlighted in Electronic Media dated March. 13th, 07.

"The Professor of Jadhavpur University (West Bangal) was Sexually abused by his Girl Students. He come out openly & His wife, who is also a Teacher, also supporting him."

Plz Highlight these Example's as well to the Secretary Ministry of WCD to Open up their CLOSED eye's.
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• Monday, March 26, 2007 - Do not trust feminists or Renuka Choudhury.

Posted by Anonymous
This law must be made gender neutral.

Do not trust feminists or Renuka Choudhury. They will put up a mild
bill initially and as the time comes for passing it, they will
suddenly include 2 or 3 clauses.

We want women also to be punished if they sexually harass Men.
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• Friday, March 30, 2007 - proposed suggestions

Posted by lhmc2000
In the draft proposal we the male nurses wish to bring out our point of sexual harassment. We are in the profession that is dominated by the women and we men being the late entrants are minority in number as well as hold the junior positions. As the things stand out we are harassed often in the sexually hostile environment. The nursing is a profession, which can be done equally we by the men and sometimes-even better by men.
It is unfortunate that in the era of gender equality the male nurses should suffer from sexual harassment in their workplace. We often have to face the ridicule from the female colleagues, superiors as well as the doctors both male and female.
On the duty there is usually one male nurse along with the number of female nurses. Often after finishing the work that women make us the targets, crack jokes in sexually coloured manner and often display the male modes center spreads. Often we are assumed to sexually hungry and asked to enjoy with the women around and satisfy the spinsters among them. We are usually in the committed sexual relationship often a stable marriage and do not wish to be dragged into uncalled and unwelcome sexual relations.
If we are not compliant enough to take the major chunk of the tiring and dirty work we often risk of running in the sexual harassment. Often our marital relations are put under the strain by the unsolicited calls from our female colleagues and superiors who often use it as a pressure tactics to brings us under the submission.

Some of us read that government of India is bringing out a legislation on the sexual harassment and thought that we also will be given the relief but to our horror when we saw the draft of the Bill we saw nothing that bring relief to us. On the contrary we felt that the government has prepared another stick to beat us.

We therefore demand that
1. The Bill should be made gender neutral.
2. A proper study should be done on the men in the nursing profession.
3. The passive display of sexual attractiveness (often used by women) should be brought at par with the active sexual harassment (often done by men) so that both the male and female harassers are punished.
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• Friday, March 30, 2007 - proposed suggestion

Posted by lhmc2000
The sexual harassment is experienced by both sexes at the workplace. To label the sexual overtures as harassment when the woman in the concerned relationship objects to it is fact a noble proposal. It will protect the rights of the workingwomen. At the same time it is also necessary that the workingwomen be also entrusted with the responsibility that they should not use the sexual attractiveness as the measure to secure the favours and advancements preying upon the sexual weaknesses of their superiors. In doing so they will be causing the indirect harassment to their male colleagues. It is suggested tat the Bill draft should also encompass the sexual harassment of this kind when a sexual relation has been used to secure the favours. In these cases the complainant can be the person of any gender and the respondent will be the persons who capitalized on their undue sexual relations in the workplace environment.
Therefore it is suggested that the Bill be made more sensitive to the problem faced by the men whose promotions are denied because one of their female colleagues has happily agreed to share the bed with the boss.
In this the harassed are the persons who have been denied the fair chance to promotion due to their gender.




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• Friday, March 30, 2007 - Flirting with boss to get undue advantage.

Posted by Anonymous
Why should more competent and hardworking men suffer, as women are using sex appeal and flirting to get undue advantage at workplace.

This almost all men will agree is true in office. Majority of women try to take undue advantage of sex appeal,and by flirting with bosses.

Some time back I have read article. Working women were asked have they ever flirted with the boss to get favours.
70% said yes.
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• Sunday, September 20, 2009 - test

Posted by genderjustise
test
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